--- Log opened sรกb sep 10 00:00:09 2022 05:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Tio: in your instance is it allowed to write posts in Italian? 08:15 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@thushi:fairydust.space> Tio: in your instance is it allowed to write posts in Italian? 08:15 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 08:15 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ of course, anyone is free to post in any language they want 08:23 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> of course, anyone is free to post in any language they want 08:23 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 08:24 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ cool. Where can I find the ToS? 08:24 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ the ToS are simply and reasonable: don't be a spam bot ๐Ÿ™‚ - the rest is up to you what you post. 08:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ the ToS are simple and reasonable: don't be a spam bot ๐Ÿ™‚ - the rest is up to you what you post. 08:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I rely on the fact that if others do not like what you post, they will ignore/block you 08:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I do not want to enforce any particular rules. it is your account do as you wish 08:27 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I like it :) 08:29 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ maybe I will migrate my account to your instance when I have time to do so ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ 08:31 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ we also have custom themes for friendica, made by me. i will work on fixing them for mobile screens too but for desktop they work very well 08:31 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ we have twitter integration too in case you want to connect with your twitter 08:35 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> we also have custom themes for friendica, made by me. i will work on fixing them for mobile screens too but for desktop they work very well 08:35 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 08:35 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ is there one that is not limiting (or at the limit, which is not excessively limiting) if I do not enable javascript in the browser? 08:47 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ idk if i got your question 08:57 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I meant if there are any themes that allow me to use Friendica on your instance without JS, and without limitations 09:02 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I am not familiar with why JS is so bad that some avoid it, nor it disabling it for Friendica will break the themes. They are simply CSS added on top of the current Frio Friendica theme. 09:24 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> I am not familiar with why JS is so bad that some avoid it, nor it disabling it for Friendica will break the themes. They are simply CSS added on top of the current Frio Friendica theme. 09:24 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 09:24 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ oh, ok. Anyway, thank you :) 09:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I am not familiar with why JS is so bad that some avoid it, nor if disabling it for Friendica will break the themes. They are simply CSS added on top of the current Frio Friendica theme. 09:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ if I may, I have another question: Has your application been deferred by some other instance? 09:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ if I may, I have another question: has your instance been defedered by some other instance? 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@thushi:fairydust.space> if I may, I have another question: has your instance been defedered by some other instance? 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I have no idea. This is a discussion I tried to have with many over the fediverse because I think this practice is totally insane. Non transparent and breaking the fediverse. And I have no clue if any other instance blocked us....instances should either not block other instances or if they do there should be a way to signal it to everyone on those instances so everyone knows. Rec 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ ently Friendica added a notification for all users on an instance when the instance admin blocks any other instance. That's good but we need a lot more... 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ so in short, I cannot know if my instance is blocked by other instances.... 09:34 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ While the registrations are open and anyone is welcomed, we oblige everyone to tell us the reason they join our instance, and thus we deter a lot of bots. Thus, I hope not many blocked us.....but there is no way for me to know... 10:07 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> I am not familiar with why JS is so bad that some avoid it, nor if disabling it for Friendica will break the themes. They are simply CSS added on top of the current Frio Friendica theme. 10:07 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 10:08 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Unfortunately it's not in English: 10:08 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ - https://github.com/bkil/freedom-fighters/blob/master/hu/article/browser-javascript.md 10:08 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ maybe you can find something in english? 10:09 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I could translate it given enough demand ๐Ÿ‘… But the links inside it point to English articles. 10:09 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Richard Stallman refused to come to our podcast because we were streaming on peertube and he said they use JS....that's the first time I realized some people really don't like JS but I never understood exactly what the issue with JS was.... 10:09 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ maybe I should look more into this 10:10 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ It could actually be solved easily in case of PeerTube. He probably had an issue with the frontend not declaring the license and linking to its sources https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2018/fall/escaping-the-javascript-trap-with-librejs https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/freejs 10:11 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Surely for non-FOSS websites, this is much more difficult. 10:18 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ You can easily disable JavaScript per page in most browsers to test. At a glance on another instance, many features work, but unfortunately, the post composition button is gone. The user menu along with the settings also fail to work, but as they are present within the DOM, that can be easily worked around via UserCSS. What browser do you use thushi ? 10:19 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Interestingly, I recalled better nojs compatibility out of the box, but that might have been in an earlier version. 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@bkil:grin.hu> You can easily disable JavaScript per page in most browsers to test. At a glance on another instance, many features work, but unfortunately, the post composition button is gone. The user menu along with the settings also fail to work, but as they are present within the DOM, that can be easily worked around via UserCSS. What browser do you use thushi ? 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ yes I know, in the past I had already done several tests on the instance that I currently use. However don't worry, I'm used to having to adapt, on some sites (like Friendica for example) I am willing to compromise by enabling JS execution, although obviously I would much prefer not to. 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ But this is not a problem that depends on you anyway, all the platforms of the fediverse in general force users to enable JS unfortunately. 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Since you talked about alternative themes, I was just curious if there is one that does not require the use of JS, nothing more. 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ On the question of JS we should open a long parenthesis (as regards the web in general, not just the fediverse), and I think we would end up too OT, as regards your specific instance, don't worry, I don't think you can do much about it , and I understand it. 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ In fact, you were also very kind to care for my needs, I really appreciate it. 14:22 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ My idea about your instance hasn't changed at all from before, it's still positive, JS is a separate issue that doesn't affect any specific instance 14:23 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ bkil: oh, sorry, I misunderstood, I thought that message was written by Tio ^__^; 14:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ yes I know, in the past I had already done several tests on the instance that I currently use. However don't worry, I'm used to having to adapt, on some sites (like Friendica for example) I am willing to compromise by enabling JS execution, although obviously I would much prefer not to. 14:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ But this is not a problem that depends on you anyway, all the platforms of the fediverse in general force users to enable JS unfortunately. 14:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Since you talked about alternative themes, I was just curious if there is one that does not require the use of JS, nothing more. 14:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 14:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ On the question of JS we should open a long parenthesis (as regards the web in general, not just the fediverse), and I think we would end up too OT, as regards your specific instance, don't worry, I don't think you can do much about it , and I understand it. 14:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ In fact, you were also very kind to care for my needs, I really appreciate it. 14:25 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ My idea about your instance hasn't changed from before, it's still positive, JS is a separate issue that doesn't affect any specific instance 15:43 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> Richard Stallman refused to come to our podcast because we were streaming on peertube and he said they use JS....that's the first time I realized some people really don't like JS but I never understood exactly what the issue with JS was.... 15:43 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 15:43 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ What is your podcast? 17:39 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ this https://videos.trom.tf/w/p/n5dfTv4yDdVwQhjqHhXPfT 17:40 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ it is a video-cast 18:07 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > that's the first time I realized some people really don't like JS but I never understood exactly what the issue with JS was.... 18:08 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > that's the first time I realized some people really don't like JS but I never understood exactly what the issue with JS was.... 18:08 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ It is a bad language as it is, the ecosystem is chaos and it enables everything that is bad on the internet - Otherwise it is fine 18:09 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Admittedly, this is a bit exaggerated, but not entirely ;-) 18:09 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > that's the first time I realized some people really don't like JS but I never understood exactly what the issue with JS was.... 18:09 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ It is a bad language as it is, the ecosystem is chaos and it enables everything that is bad on the internet - Otherwise it is fine 18:10 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > that's the first time I realized some people really don't like JS but I never understood exactly what the issue with JS was.... 18:10 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ It is a bad language as it is, the ecosystem is chaos and it enables everything that is bad on the internet - Otherwise it is fine 18:11 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > that's the first time I realized some people really don't like JS but I never understood exactly what the issue with JS was.... 18:11 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > It is a bad language as it is, the ecosystem is chaos and it enables everything that is bad on the internet - Otherwise it is just fine. 18:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> this https://videos.trom.tf/w/p/n5dfTv4yDdVwQhjqHhXPfT 18:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 18:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Cool! 18:34 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ On RMS, I'm not surprised by the reaction. It's indicative of why I think both he and FSF leave a bad taste in my mouth and I don't have high opinions of them. 18:53 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@thushi:fairydust.space> yes I know, in the past I had already done several tests on the instance that I currently use. However don't worry, I'm used to having to adapt, on some sites (like Friendica for example) I am willing to compromise by enabling JS execution, although obviously I would much prefer not to. 18:53 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > But this is not a problem that depends on you anyway, all the platforms of the fediverse in general force users to enable JS unfortunately. 18:53 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > Since you talked about alternative themes, I was just curious if there is one that does not require the use of JS, nothing more. 18:53 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > 18:53 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > On the question of JS we should open a long parenthesis (as regards the web in general, not just the fediverse), and I think we would end up too OT, as regards your specific instance, don't worry, I don't think you can do much about it , and I understand it. 18:54 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > In fact, you were also very kind to care for my needs, I really appreciate it. 18:54 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > My idea about your instance hasn't changed from before, it's still positive, JS is a separate issue that doesn't affect any specific instance 18:54 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 18:54 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Your question is still valid - it would be possible to create a theme that runs better without JavaScript. Friendica Themes can carry arbitrary php code along with. You can use with native clients as well without using a browser - it is compatible with clients made for Friendica, Mastodon or GNU Social. 20:08 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@hank:myportal.social> On RMS, I'm not surprised by the reaction. It's indicative of why I think both he and FSF leave a bad taste in my mouth and I don't have high opinions of them. 20:08 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 20:08 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ yeah I wanted to talk to him a bit about what he started back in the days and challenge him a bit 20:54 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ He doesn't like being challenged, just bowed down to and obeyed. --- Log closed dom sep 11 00:00:10 2022