--- Log opened vie jul 15 00:00:15 2022 00:00 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 8 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] 00:00 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 18 secs --- Log opened vie jul 15 00:45:36 2022 00:45 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 8 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] --- Log opened vie jul 15 00:45:36 2022 00:45 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 9 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal] 00:45 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 21 secs 00:45 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 21 secs 02:01 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Hank: did you check multi rbl to see if their outgoing servers are blocked? --- Log opened vie jul 15 02:13:04 2022 02:13 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 8 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] 02:13 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 14 secs 02:21 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ bkil: I suppose I do not trust others with palette solutions. Seen them using old software a lot, often leaving bugs unfixed and in some cases even security issues. It is a bit like running snapd, there is no control by the distro makers. --- Log opened vie jul 15 02:30:18 2022 02:30 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 8 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] 02:30 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 19 secs --- Log closed vie jul 15 03:15:15 2022 --- Log opened vie jul 15 03:15:25 2022 03:15 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 8 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] 03:15 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 18 secs 08:28 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@hansw:matrix.org> Hank: did you check multi rbl to see if their outgoing servers are blocked? 08:28 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 08:28 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ What is "multi rbl"? Right now I'm at the stage of diagnosing why the settings aren't getting picked up by the `DI::config()->get` commands in the add on since I am writing that to the log directly and seeing them coming up blank 09:04 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ So it seems like the problem is that the add on configs aren't getting read from the files except from the default config for the plugin. NB. DataGrip won't properly insert into a MySQL varbinary field so had to hand edit the config table from the mysql CLI. Now it is working but it'd be nice to figure out what is going on with the reading of addon configs 09:29 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Hank: https://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/ 09:31 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Yeah not a problem with that. Once I got the settings jammed in by manually entering into the database it works fine 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ If you test it on your outgoing mail servers 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ ah, ok 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ The "real" outgoing mail server should have been the SMTP relay at Fastmail 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ but because the settings weren't being picked up the one on the Friendica server was the one sending the mail directly 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ That is the one you should test 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ which for obvious reasons email providers were like, "WTH is this crap?" 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ :-) 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ No ptr..... 09:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Once the settings were correct and it was actually doing the relay it works 09:33 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ The problem was that most email providers said "WTH" and threw it into spam where a user could adjudicate it 09:33 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ GMail on the other hand just ate it altogether 09:33 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Gmail eats anything, even with a low ttl 09:36 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Actually, deliverability of self-hosted email is pretty good if you configured rDNS, DMARK, DKIM, SPF and have a good track record (i.e., never attempted delivery before that and users reply to at least _some_ of your emails). 09:37 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I'm sure 09:37 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ but I didn't want to set that up and my domain email is hosted by fastmail already as well 09:37 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ so the relay seemed to be the best option 09:38 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ now the question is why are add on config values not getting picked up from `config/addon.config.php` or even `config/local.config.php` 09:38 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ changes to the defaults in `addon/phpmailer/config/phpmail.config.php` were picked up and values in the database were picked up once I figured out that DataGrip wasn't inserting them correctly --- Log opened vie jul 15 14:20:41 2022 14:20 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 8 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] --- Log opened vie jul 15 14:20:42 2022 14:20 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 9 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal] 14:20 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 18 secs 14:20 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 21 secs --- Log closed vie jul 15 14:21:51 2022 --- Log opened vie jul 15 14:25:20 2022 14:25 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 8 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] 14:25 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 17 secs --- Log opened vie jul 15 14:40:13 2022 14:40 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 8 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] 14:40 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 16 secs --- Log closed vie jul 15 20:42:30 2022 --- Log opened vie jul 15 20:57:40 2022 20:57 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 9 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal] 20:57 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 14 secs --- Log closed sรกb jul 16 00:00:03 2022