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03:12 < fikabot> 💬 <mugli> Again: is there a way to make a full connection graph for the registered users from MariaDB?
06:18 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> mugli:  A full connection graph of what? To see the graph of _public_ followers over the fediverse, you would need to either crawl the fediverse or get a dump of _every_ server!
06:19 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> Then just use dot from graphviz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphviz
09:14 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> Do note, that a connection graph itself can be used to deanonimize users and may thus be considered a violation of privacy. If you only process users who have opted to be listed in the public user directory and only follow connections for which both the follower had allowed displaying their profile and network publicly and the one being followed has also made their profile and fo <clipped message>
09:14 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> llowers public, I think you should be mostly okay.
10:13 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> Yeah any connection graph stuff should be in only explicitly allowed data otherwise I'd consider that a breach
10:13 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> It'd be akin to reading the private post/message content stored in the DB
11:32 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> Sounds like a dark pattern: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern#Privacy_Zuckering
11:42 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> It is a bit of a concern of mine in the fediverse in general
11:42 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> the whole thing is ripe for easy trawling
11:47 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> Just like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_profiling#Surreptitious_DNA_collecting
11:48 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> I mean just like Cambridge Analytica
11:48 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> It's trivial for public posts, just like anywhere else. One reason why I'm disappointed that OpenGraph previews are broken with the bot blocker on but I get it
11:49 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> But not that much harder even with private data when inevitably get sloppy with connections and sharing privately to all their connections
11:49 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> set up a server, make as many connections as possible, traverse the database which has all of the data both public and private that has been federated over to it
11:51 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> Just add a new free for all instance with all addons and features activated, a funky theme, fast server, perhaps some strings attached like storage or even an email account and watch the thousands of innocent members rush right through the door!
11:52 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> Well, make it two, one especially advertised as free speech (trendy nowadays), one advertised as being the most connected.
11:55 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> yup
11:55 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> doesn't even have to be nefarious...could just be over-avaricious well intentioned person that doesn't lock their server down so easy to hack into and vacuum up the data
11:56 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> Heck, create an intance named and localized according to each major country so they may feel more at home (hosting them can be done at the same datacentre or even on the same VM)
11:56 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> #GrowthHack #Brainstorming
11:57 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> How to get +10000 Friendica registrations within 2022?
11:59 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> HAHA
11:59 < fikabot> 💬 <bkil> Such banners give an opportunity for exodus: https://hub.fosstodon.org/why-fosstodon-is-english-only/ "Announcement ***REMINDER: Fossdoton is an English-only instance (for public posts).*** We're seeing a growing number of posts in other languages, which makes moderation really difficult. Please remember to post only in English to the public timeline."
12:00 < fikabot> 💬 <Hank> I don't want to spread FUD that limits fediverse uptake but still a concern of mine
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