--- Log opened mar feb 22 00:00:32 2022 --- Log closed mar feb 22 01:11:46 2022 --- Log opened mar feb 22 01:12:07 2022 01:12 -!- Irssi: #friendica: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 01:12 -!- Irssi: Join to #friendica was synced in 21 secs 04:47 < fikabot> 💬 > <@jbc:matrix.jb-net.us> They probably set it low so it doesn't overwhelm smaller VPS providers. I would say 10-20 is good depending on the size of the node. I have a decent amount of resources so I have it a little higher. Just have to make sure each individual child process isn't set too high on max memory usage, so it doesn't overwhelm your physical memory. 04:48 < fikabot> 💬 04:48 < fikabot> 💬 Ik think I found this once for Hubzilla: https://chrismoore.ca/2018/10/finding-the-correct-pm-max-children-settings-for-php-fpm/ . Would this be useful for Friendica as an indication? 05:43 < fikabot> 💬 Could probably make sense. 11:18 < fikabot> 💬 Still trying to figure out my follower issue from yesterday. I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with my posts to the support forum? I.e. using an instance that's blocked for some reason? I never get replies to any of my posts, though they do appear on the forum. Not sure if I'm just asking difficult questions or if there's some technical issue I'm not aware of. 11:19 < fikabot> 💬 Anyway, not sure where to try for help next. I really want to sort out this issue before promoting the account, since it's odd that I can't get posts from this account. 12:16 < fikabot> 💬 Yes, it would be great if it the issue could be sorted. 12:16 < fikabot> 💬 Yes, it would be great if the issue could be sorted. 12:24 < fikabot> 💬 > <@nolan:thewordnerd.info> Still trying to figure out my follower issue from yesterday. I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with my posts to the support forum? I.e. using an instance that's blocked for some reason? I never get replies to any of my posts, though they do appear on the forum. Not sure if I'm just asking difficult questions or if there's some technical issue I'm not aware of. 12:24 < fikabot> 💬 12:24 < fikabot> 💬 Which forum are you posting to? helpers@forum.friendi.ca? 12:25 < fikabot> 💬 Yeah. Nolan Darilek 12:25 < fikabot> 💬 It's odd that, when I click through to the post in my instance, I only see the title and not the text. But it appears in full on the main support forum site. That makes me wonder if I'm posting to the forum incorrectly or messing something else up. 12:25 < fikabot> 💬 Or rather, I see the title and the !mention, but not the post text on my own instance. 12:28 < fikabot> 💬 Mainly so I can look for your account. 12:30 < fikabot> 💬 Not sure how I can link to the actual posts on the forum. Mine is the second listed on https://forum.friendi.ca/profile/helpers. I'm seriously wondering if this instance may be broken. 12:31 < fikabot> 💬 Weird, I can't see any of your posts going back a month. I can try adding and tagging you in a post to see if your instance can see that. 12:32 < fikabot> 💬 Strange. Wondering if this instance landed on a blocklist or something? 12:37 < fikabot> 💬 I added your venera profile but can't find the lights out profile from my node at all 12:38 < fikabot> 💬 Weird, what do you mean by can't find? main@social.lightsout.games returns no search results? 12:42 < fikabot> 💬 https://webfinger.net/lookup/?resource=main%40social.lightsout.games works for me. 🤷 I had no idea this would be so tough to set up. 13:09 < fikabot> 💬 Right, when I looked up the contact through my profile. 13:12 < fikabot> 💬 It returned a few venera.social results, are you connected to those profiles? Are they able to connect to the lights out one? 13:12 < fikabot> 💬 Wait, searching for main@social.lightsout.games returns venera.social contacts? 13:13 < fikabot> 💬 I'm able to connect to the extent I described in my forum post (I.e. searching, seeing some details, but not getting any posts or seeing the account in my followers list.) 13:14 < fikabot> 💬 Yeah, as well as a few others. Probably just tangentially related. 13:14 < fikabot> 💬 Weird, I could directly connect when using the add new connections option. I'll try to tag that profile to see if you can see it. 13:17 < fikabot> 💬 Alright, posted on my node, see if it notifies you in a few minutes. 13:21 < fikabot> 💬 Sure, will do. Alternately, I have a huge friendica.log with level set to debug, but as a screen reader user there's a lot here and I can't skim all these UUIDs very easily. If I made that available somewhere, would anyone be able to help? Or does that leak a bunch of info I shouldn't be sharing? 13:22 < fikabot> 💬 Yes, it can leak _some_ information. We might want to grep something out of it 13:23 < fikabot> 💬 OK, got your notification, sending back a comment. You still don't appear as a follower--not sure if you followed or not. 13:24 < fikabot> 💬 By the way, it would be great if you could review the usability of Friendica web interface and various native clients from a screen reader if you could finally set it up. I'm sure not many contribute in that direction. 13:25 < fikabot> 💬 > <@nolan:thewordnerd.info> OK, got your notification, sending back a comment. You still don't appear as a follower--not sure if you followed or not. 13:25 < fikabot> 💬 13:25 < fikabot> 💬 Yeah, it's saying that I am following from my end. 13:26 < fikabot> 💬 This instance shows up on your instance https://social.lightsout.games/display/44b4898e-2162-13f7-ad11-9ea727216814 13:26 < fikabot> 💬 This post shows up on your instance https://social.lightsout.games/display/44b4898e-2162-13f7-ad11-9ea727216814 13:27 < fikabot> 💬 > <@bkil:grin.hu> By the way, it would be great if you could review the usability of Friendica web interface and various native clients from a screen reader if you could finally set it up. I'm sure not many contribute in that direction. 13:27 < fikabot> 💬 13:27 < fikabot> 💬 That's the plan. I'd like to host my own instance so I can make the default theme a lot more accessible, and then upstream those changes. That's why I've been asking questions about account migration on the forums, I'd like to move my current account to an instance I control. 13:27 < fikabot> 💬 May I follow you as a test? 13:27 < fikabot> 💬 Right now I'm just trying to set up this organizational instance so I can promote to Twitter and see if I get any interest for my owork from the fediverse side of the fence. 🙂 13:27 < fikabot> 💬 Sorry I have no debug capabilities on this shared instance, but what you are trying to achieve sounds very interesting in general. 13:28 < fikabot> 💬 > <@bkil:grin.hu> May I follow you as a test? 13:28 < fikabot> 💬 13:28 < fikabot> 💬 Sure. 13:29 < fikabot> 💬 I'm a follower and I added 2 comments. Could you please create a new post as a test? 13:29 < fikabot> 💬 > <@bkil:grin.hu> This post shows up on your instance https://social.lightsout.games/display/44b4898e-2162-13f7-ad11-9ea727216814 13:29 < fikabot> 💬 13:30 < fikabot> 💬 Yeah, that was me trying to get a post out to nolan@venera.social. 13:31 < fikabot> 💬 OK, new post sent. Should go out in 9 minutes. 13:32 < fikabot> 💬 You have cron set up in with a 10 minute interval? 13:33 < fikabot> 💬 It's the yunohost app and that's what it does. 13:34 < fikabot> 💬 Not sure if there's a better/more preferred way. 13:36 < fikabot> 💬 Also sent some comments. One thing I'm doing is unchecking the box to cross-post to Twitter. I suppose it's *possible* that's disabling all federation, but I'd rather not spam Twitter with all these tests. If none of my posts arrive in 10 minutes or so then I'll leave that checked and try again. 13:36 < fikabot> 💬 > <@nolan:thewordnerd.info> OK, got your notification, sending back a comment. You still don't appear as a follower--not sure if you followed or not. 13:36 < fikabot> 💬 13:36 < fikabot> 💬 Looks like I can see your reply, so ActivityPub is working somewhat. 13:41 < fikabot> 💬 OK, "Another federation test" has been delivered. 13:45 < fikabot> 💬 I'm still crossing my fingers for receiving the second post, though 13:48 < fikabot> 💬 I just sent out another, this time with the "Cross-post to Twitter" box checked. Trying to figure out if disabling that disables all federation for some reason. 13:48 < fikabot> 💬 Where else can I go for help if we can't figure this out? Huge bummer that I can't post to the forums, that seems to be one of the bigger support channels. 13:51 < fikabot> 💬 OK, latest post is on Twitter at least... 13:57 < fikabot> 💬 Hm, I still can't see your post, but I got your comment. 🤔 13:58 < fikabot> 💬 Yeah, I'm officially at a loss. ☹️ 13:58 < fikabot> 💬 Thanks for helping me hammer on this. 14:15 < fikabot> 💬 Something I hadn't thought of till now: what is your default privacy setting on your posts? Private, Contacts or Public? 14:17 < fikabot> 💬 I believe public. 14:24 < fikabot> 💬 Okay, you can also verify per post in the permissions tab. That might explain why you can comment but we don't see the posts. 14:25 < fikabot> 💬 Oh, all the posts I made were definitely public. I specifically went to that tab to disable Twitter cross-posting--except for the last one, that is, but it was still public. 14:27 < fikabot> 💬 Alright. I can try posting in the helpers forum to see if you can at least see that. Might be a way to indirectly get the ball rolling for you to post there. 14:39 < fikabot> 💬 Hmm, yeah, maybe we can at least debug why I'm not able to post to helpers from venera.social? 14:50 < fikabot> 💬 > <@nolan:thewordnerd.info> Hmm, yeah, maybe we can at least debug why I'm not able to post to helpers from venera.social? 14:50 < fikabot> 💬 14:50 < fikabot> 💬 Yep I just tagged that account as a comment in the post I made to the forum. Hopefully you'll see it from one or the other account. 14:58 < fikabot> 💬 Got it and replied, let's see if we can at least figure that much out. Would be nice if I can move my personal account to an instance I control, and I had some forum posts asking questions about that process. 15:22 < fikabot> 💬 Curious if my comment on the post made it? 15:34 < fikabot> 💬 OK, it did at least make it to the main forum site. Let's see if anyone else gets it. 15:47 < fikabot> 💬 > <@nolan:thewordnerd.info> Curious if my comment on the post made it? 15:47 < fikabot> 💬 15:48 < fikabot> 💬 Yep, I can also see the comment on my node when looking at the forum 15:49 < fikabot> 💬 OK, good. Thanks. 16:09 < fikabot> 💬 Is there anyone who can help troubleshoot not being able to upload anything to my instance? 16:10 < fikabot> 💬 I was able to upload some profile pictures at first. Not after that. I am not sure if it stopped working after I changed the backend from DB to files. 16:10 < fikabot> 💬 I'd guess that's very much related 16:10 < fikabot> 💬 but I've never done that personally so can't be of much help 16:56 < fikabot> 💬 > <@Mecallie:matrix.org> Is there anyone who can help troubleshoot not being able to upload anything to my instance? 16:56 < fikabot> 💬 16:56 < fikabot> 💬 Anything listed when you tail the Friendica/PHP/Webserver logs? 17:27 < fikabot> 💬 Maybe also the webserver user doesn't have write access to the storage folder? 17:43 < fikabot> 💬 When I click Browser on a post to upload a picture it seems ok: I get to my picture and can upload something. But nothing happens after that. And when I click on the files icon and upload something there also nothing happens and the name of the location sometimes switches to "undefined" instead of "files"... 17:44 < fikabot> 💬 The storage location is writeable. There are already a lot of files in there, I am presuming cached avatars or something (they are in subfolders with some kind of id and no file extension). 17:45 < fikabot> 💬 As far as I can tell, nothing pops up at all in the error log I am viewing from the web interface. I set it to debug level even, but all I get is errors like these: 17:45 < fikabot> 💬 ,,, 17:46 < fikabot> 💬 2022-02-22T20:45:11Z WARNING index E_WARNING: Undefined array key "accesskey" 17:46 < fikabot> 💬 2022-02-22T20:45:11Z WARNING index E_WARNING: Undefined array key "accesskey" 17:46 < fikabot> 💬 2022-02-22T20:45:11Z WARNING index E_WARNING: Undefined array key "accesskey" 17:46 < fikabot> 💬 2022-02-22T20:45:11Z WARNING index E_WARNING: Undefined array key "accesskey" 17:46 < fikabot> 💬 2022-02-22T20:45:11Z WARNING index E_WARNING: Undefined array key "accesskey" 17:46 < fikabot> 💬 2022-02-22T20:45:11Z WARNING index E_WARNING: Undefined array key "update" 17:46 < fikabot> 💬 2022-02-22T20:45:11Z WARNING index E_WARNING: Attempt to read property "value" on null 17:46 < fikabot> 💬 ,,, 17:47 < fikabot> 💬 I think those are related to me using PHP 8.0. And since I was able to upload some pics just after install I am still leaning towards something with changing the storage location. Strange thing is: I tested that with a pic to see if it created a folder. It did, so I assumed it worked. Now wondering if that was just the first profile pic caching... 17:58 < fikabot> 💬 Just went back to DB as backend: works. I made www-data the owner of the storage dir drwxr-xr-x rights on it. Is that not correct? 18:05 < fikabot> 💬 https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/dtbiECpzQTMlNFbsmFJivIrV 18:05 < fikabot> 💬 Hmm, after changing it back to "files" with the exact same location I can now upload pictures again. When I try to upload a movie (under pictures) it just keeps showing the rotating circle and seems to hang. When I go to the document icon I get refered to a location that seems weird, see pic. 18:08 < fikabot> 💬 https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/KTeBzHAppGgIkxgSodqeWUzf 18:09 < fikabot> 💬 And when I upload the same pic I uploaded under the photo icon it results in a white screen with no options (have to close it using the x at the top right) but it does upload the pic. The one I just uploaded gets an undefined tag, the other is in Wall Photo's. A video just does not get uploaded at all. Some kind of wrong reference? 18:21 < fikabot> 💬 > <@Mecallie:matrix.org> And when I upload the same pic I uploaded under the photo icon it results in a white screen with no options (have to close it using the x at the top right) but it does upload the pic. The one I just uploaded gets an undefined tag, the other is in Wall Photo's. A video just does not get uploaded at all. Some kind of wrong reference? 18:21 < fikabot> 💬 18:21 < fikabot> 💬 We started debugging this few days ago and I think my last question was could you open the inspector tool within your browser? We need information about what you see on the network tab and in the JavaScript console when this happens.. 18:42 < fikabot> 💬 Ok 18:46 < fikabot> 💬 I am getting a lot of 404 errors on that tab. I do actually see the picture I uploaded to the document icon now. That's a first. No video's though. 18:53 < fikabot> 💬 I also see my domain name with and without the padlock. When I look at the parts without the padlock traffic still looks like https? Also I see get domain.name/browser/image/undefined?mode=none&theme=frio&_=16455667 . Refers to undefined again... 19:10 < fikabot> 💬 > <@Mecallie:matrix.org> I also see my domain name with and without the padlock. When I look at the parts without the padlock traffic still looks like https? Also I see get domain.name/browser/image/undefined?mode=none&theme=frio&_=16455667 . Refers to undefined again... 19:10 < fikabot> 💬 19:10 < fikabot> 💬 That might be caused by an installation error. You should first configure a https certificate and then install Friendica. Otherwise you will have to tweak the site prefix in the config/database. 19:10 < fikabot> 💬 You will then probably find https mixed content warnings in the JavaScript console as well either right now, or within another browser. 19:17 < fikabot> 💬 Strange thing is: I don't? I might not be looking at the correct place though. I also tested with my admin account (no followers/following): I do not have any 404 errors then. But also no errors at all when looking at the console. Just 200 ok messages and one message without a response code... 19:18 < fikabot> 💬 https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/axLukanbvzeXSZsbFxvEtgsJ 19:18 < fikabot> 💬 You have to keep the inspector the whole time during your testing and only then start clicking on Friendica. 19:19 < fikabot> 💬 I do that. F12, new post button, upload document... 19:25 < fikabot> 💬 Sorry, that image is unviewable 19:34 < fikabot> 💬 If you click a given network request, you can also investigate its response JSON and preview. In error conditions, you may find an error in here as well. 21:41 < fikabot> 💬 > <@nolan:thewordnerd.info> OK, it did at least make it to the main forum site. Let's see if anyone else gets it. 21:41 < fikabot> 💬 21:41 < fikabot> 💬 Sounds like a strange question, but is the cron job set up correctly? In the admin panel, what does it write about the job queue? Could you perhaps share how you installed Friendica and according to which guide? --- Log closed mié feb 23 00:00:34 2022