--- Log opened vie oct 28 00:00:10 2022 08:23 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ strk: Are you an op on Libera IRC? 08:24 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Could you perhaps also make Mikaela and Mikaela- op? Already elevated on matrix side and we are low on IRC ops I think. 08:24 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ (Aminda) 08:25 < Aminda> meow 08:26 < Aminda> low on IRC ops? ChanServ reports only one 1 bAvatar +AFRefiorstv (FOUNDER) [modified 1y 23w 0d ago, on May 19 17:40:56 2021 +0000, by bAvatar] 08:27 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ It was bAvatar then 08:28 < Aminda> see also https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2015/04/01/keep-the-ops-opped.html 08:30 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I am not seeing any messages from matrix at LiberaChat 08:30 < Aminda> except that one, bkil is invisible 08:31 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ What?! 08:31 < Aminda> I would register that bot and make it use SASL and give it voice 08:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/pikaviestin.fi/85ea12a7ddbcb8769bbfeef9f25ee9bfb59a06ad 08:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I think bAvatar is Tobias https://forum.friendi.ca/display/735a2029165abbb75cd6b48387248923 https://events.ccc.de/congress/2012/wiki/~friendica 08:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@bkil:matrix.org> It was bAvatar then 08:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 08:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I should have seen this one 08:32 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Maybe federation delay? 08:33 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Come on 08:33 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I think we had it registered on freenode but didn't bother while we weren't sure where to migrate 08:33 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/pikaviestin.fi/e2a4f8466466ed84e6cb04578680f778e49b8e02 08:33 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@bkil:matrix.org> Maybe federation delay? 08:33 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 08:34 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ doesn't explain the event missing entirely 08:34 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ So it looks like it only missed a beat? 08:37 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I think I'll look into it on Monday 08:38 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ now it's missing everything after the screenshot 08:39 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Now you know how I feel in #megolm:matrix.org #E2EE:matrix.org #test_encrypted:envs.net 08:41 < bkil> Excellent 08:43 < bkil> I can see every message over the libera IRC matrix portal room, so it must be on your side then. That's IRC for you. ๐Ÿคท 08:52 < Aminda> I seem to see everything from WeeChat so maybe there is an issue with the relay plugin 08:52 < Aminda> time to do regularly irregular upgrades I guess 08:52 < Aminda> WeeChat 3.8-dev (git: v3.7-2-g609635061) [compiled on Oct 9 2022 23:05:48] 08:52 < Aminda> Upgraded 9 times, first start: Thu Jul 28 14:00:05 2022, last start: Mon Oct 10 22:39:29 2022 08:54 < Aminda> oh, this also wants a reboot due to kernel upgrades 09:39 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ https://ubuntu.com/security/livepatch 09:43 < Aminda> Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 09:43 -Aminda:#friendica- I wonder if this bot does notice/m.notice 09:49 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ https://tuxcare.com/developer-tutorial-live-patching-debian-10-linux-kernel-with-kpatch/ 10:45 < Aminda[m]> "I wonder if this bot does notice..." <- Apparently not 11:19 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ Bots should not forwarding notices by design in order to avoid loops. 11:55 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ > <@bkil:grin.hu> Bots should not forwarding notices by design in order to avoid loops. 11:55 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 11:55 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I disagree in case of relaybots. This just makes bots not use notices which enables botloops on the other side as the other option is to leave possibly important context missing from other ends of the relay. Additionally in this case the concept of bot message exists on both sides 11:55 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ 11:55 < fikabot_> ๐Ÿ’ฌ I hope matterbridge will merge the PR soon --- Log closed sรกb oct 29 00:00:12 2022